Well, the assembly of IVAW (Iraq Veterans Against the War) ass-hats has convened in D.C.
Previous blog:
http://sfcmac.wordpress.com/2008/02/08/ivaw-losers-to-host-winter-soldier-ii/
Jonn Lilyea from “This Ain’t Hell” (Link: http://thisainthell.us/blog/?p=1346) is live blogging from the ‘event’.
So far, the reporting reflects a small panel of disgruntled, ex-military miscreants, who regurgitate shit that proves a: they don’t know what the hell they’re talking about, and b: most of the shit is exagerated or just plain made up.
They are bitching about a lot of things ranging from what they think are “war crimes” to substandard VA care.
Thus Spake Ortner at The Sniper (Link: http://3-116thsniper.blogspot.com/) has joined Jonn for a running comentary:
Incidently, for those playing at home, the demographic in this room is decidedly not OEF/OIF. Lilyea and I are counting heads, and there appear to be 4-8 people who might have served in the war. Most the people in here may have been young enough to fight in Nam, but I kinda doubt that. This crowd was following the Grateful Dead in 1968.
……I wish y’all could see this room. Everyone wanted the war crimes. Now that it is the VA, health issues, (you know, mostly Congress bashing) then everyone didi-mau’d out of the place.
That pretty much somes up the gaggle of whiners and their hand-picked audience of supporters.
A whole half-dozen or so that have been to Iraq, and the rest are nihilist ditto heads who clap on cue.
Wanna bet they throw in a couple of “Troof ta powa” chants before they go home to mommy’s basement?
On a side note, Michelle Malkin posted a video-link confrontation and a transcript between Young Americans for Freedom representative Jason Mattera, and John Kerry.
Jason cornered the bastard and called him on his troop-smearing crap when he lied in front of Congress in 1971. Kerry still lies about it, so at least he’s consistent.
From Michelle Malkin’s site:
Here’s the transcript:
Opening slate: On January 31, 1971, John Kerry organized the Winter Soldier Investigations, a media event that falsely accused American soldiers of routinely raping, torturing, and murdering innocent Vietnamese civilians.
Second slate: From March 13-16, 2008, Iraq Veterans Against the War has coordinated a second Winter Soldier Investigations in an effort to assail the U.S. Military in Iraq and Afghanistan.
Third slate: On March 11, 2008, Jason Mattera of Young America’s Foundation confronted Senator Kerry (D-MA) about Winter Soldier II and the Senator’s shady past.
MATTERA: Hey, Sen. Kerry! Jason Mattera with Young America’s Foundation. How are you?
KERRY: Jason. How are you?
MATTERA: I was wondering: Do you have any advice for the new group of activists who are organizing Winter Soldier II?
KERRY: I haven’t [unintelligble] what they’re doing or where they’re at. I just don’t…
MATTERA: Do you think this crop of anti-war activists, do you there’ll be any frauds like Al Hubbard?
KERRY: I have no idea. I hope not.
MATTERA: Do you think that they will make slanderous accusations–accusing the troops of raping women, pillaging villaging, just like you did to the Fulbright committee?
KERRY: Uh, I didn’t make those.
MATTERA: You didn’t?
Audio clip, John Kerry, 4/22/71: [They told the stories at times] they had personally raped, cut off ears, cut off heads, taped wires from portable telephones to human genitals and turned up the power, cut off limbs, blown up bodies, randomly shot at civilians, razed villages in fashion reminiscent of Genghis Khan, shot cattle and dogs for fun, poisoned food stocks, and generally ravaged the countryside of South Vietnam in addition to the normal ravage of war, and the normal and very particular ravaging which is done by the applied bombing power of this country.
Kerry claims Winter Soldier Investigations were substantiated by further investigation.
MATTERA: Did you ever verify those –
KERRY (crosstalk): I’ve been misquoted about that hundreds of times.
MATTERA: So you never substantiated those charges before you–
KERRY: I proposed–I gave them to the committee because I felt that they ought to be investigated and that’s exactly what I said. These are the–many of those charges, incidentally, were subsequently verified by different entities.
Slate: No criminal charges were filed as a result of any of the [Army’s Criminal Investigative Division] investigations into Winter Soldier.
FrontPageMag.com, February 25, 2008
Slate: Much of the testimony that will be heard during the three days could not be corroborated by the Free Press in the ten days it had to run down each account.
Detroit Free Press, January 31, 1971
MATTERA: Could you sign the picture of the dedication the North Vietnamese created in helping–claiming you helped them win the war?
KERRY: No. No.
MATTERA: Do you have any thoughts?
KERRY (puts hand on Jason’s shoulder): Who do you represent?
MATTERA: Young America’s Foundation.
KERRY: Ohhh.
MATTERA: Does it bother you that the North Vietnamese created a memorial dedicated to you?
KERRY: It’s not dedicated to me.
Slate: At the Communists War Remnants Museum in Ho Chi Minh City, John Kerry’s picture hangs in a section dedicated to the anti-war activists who helped the Vietnamese Communists win the Vietnam War.
End slate:
Reputations ruined.
Lives torn apart.
Servicemen maligned.We can’t let lies like Kerry’s go unchallenged again.
Link: http://michellemalkin.com/2008/03/12/hot-air-tv-sen-john-kerry-confronted-about-winter-soldier-ii/
Link to the Young Americans for Freedom video: http://media.yaf.org/blog/?p=126
A complete compilation of Kerry’s perjury can be found at: http://www.wintersoldier.com/
Oh yeah, and here’s the picture that hangs in the museum in Ho Chi Mihn City.
Vietnam veteran Bill Lupetti took this photograph of a display at a Ho Chi Minh City museum honoring war protesters:
I wonder if Kerry will show up at the ‘conference’.