SFC Jonn Lilyea, U.S. Army (RET) of This ain’t Hell (http://thisainthell.us/blog/) is a good buddy, a blogger, and a fellow war veteran. He’s going to be covering something next month called “Winter Soldier II”; a circus hosted by a bunch of malcontents from the IVAW, “Iraq Veterans Against the War”.
For the uninitiated, the original “Winter Soldier” took place in 1971, with John Kerry at the forefront of the farce.
John Kerry lied before Congress in 1971 during the so-called “Winter Soldier Investigation”. He denigrated his fellow veterans with fabricated tales about atrocities he never witnessed, and hopped into the political sack with Jane Fonda, and the V.V.A.W. (Vietnam Veterans Against the War); a wonderful organization that voted on whether to commit political assassinations during a November 1971 meeting. He also traveled to Hanoi, shook hands with the VC, and offered his support. His picture still hangs in the Ho Chi Mihn museum. His “war hero” persona has some flaws. The embellished circumstances involving his Purple Hearts and his subsequent behavior are clearly indicative of lack of character, integrity, and the leadership it takes to be a respected member of our government. He shouldn’t have been a Senator, let alone Presidential candidate.
Former members of his Navy Swift Boat unit revealed some aspects of Kerry’s unethical behavior in Vietnam. Kerry “reenacted” his adventures in Vietnam with a movie camera, conned the Navy out of 4 Purple Hearts for Band-Aid “wounds” (one of which was self-inflicted), and threw someone else’s medals over the White House fence during an anti-war publicity stunt.
For a complete expose on the 1971 “Winter Soldier” sham check out this website: https://web.archive.org/web/20201211230257/http://wintersoldier.com/
Phonies like Jesse MacBeth, Scott Beauchamp, and Adam Kokesh, have either fabricated stories about themselves or their fellow sevice members and don’t have the decency to be ashamed.
Now comes a motley group of ex-military misfits, hosting a Winter Soldier redux.
The IVAW (http://www.ivaw.org) attracts some pretty undesirable characters. Read the “profiles” and comments on their website. Not one of them has any outstanding achievements. They omit full disclosure of their military backgrounds, and some of them are dumb enough to think that Buck Sergeants and Privates can “retire” under normal circumstances.
One of them in particular, Jonathan P. Dewald, has a unique way of “expressing” himself. His rants are clearly indicative of an emotionally retarded individual. Throwing imbecilic tantrums against the military and his own country is his way of compensating for his intellectual impotence. For someone who served in the Army, he’s totally clueless about the reasons for the WOT.
To top it all off, he’s not even a war veteran, yet he’s been allowed into an organization with the “Iraq Veterans” designation in the title. How token.
The Islamofascist goal of a world Caliphate is lost on the X-Box generation. In the IVAW, he’s in good company.
I previously blogged about these losers here: http://sfcmac.wordpress.com/2007/11/09/former-military-malcontents/
Veterans angered by disgraceful organizations like the IVAW, not only served, but actually deployed to war; an item missing from Dewald’s DD214. It’s highly probable that they padded their ranks with asshats like Dewald. Evidently, they think numbers will make up for the lack of legitimacy and integrity in their clique.
The IVAW brings shame on themselves in an attempt to drag all veterans into the gutter of their anti-military/anti-war ‘activism’. They abuse their status as “veterans” for the purpose of bad-mouthing the WOT as well as the country.
They feed the maws of radical groups like Code Pink, A.N.S.W.E.R., and MoveOn.org, and serve as a propaganda tool for Islamofascists who don’t like the fact we struck back and are erradicating them on their own turf.
There will be a lot of leftwingnut rhetoric at their little get-together next month, but they should know that most veterans will defy their bullshit.
The Left loves to tout groups like the IVAW as if they are ‘heros’ bucking the system, when in reality, there’s no honor or bravery in collaborating and joining ranks with an organization of traitorous malcontents.
I wonder if John Kerry will be on hand.
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Old Sarge you gave this ground pounding C Med straight hard wood.
The intellictuel conversations with people who say nener nener nener whenever they don’t have anything credible to aspouse is a difficult task at best. You accomplished it with the poise and in your face spirit that shows the world why we are the shining city on the hill. You’re a go at this station (and you’re right he’s still a shitty poet). Maybe some day I can grow up just like you, teach, train, mentor. Defending this country is sergeants business.
Being a soldier I know marching orders when I see them, I don’t believe he truly hates the US(although his words say otherwise) he is just a good soldier himself spouting the party line as directed by those who truly do hate this great country. His hate for the man named Bush has more than clouded his vision and his thinking. But such is the life of the truly galactically stupid(to quote Tommy- another moron).
Al Salem alaykum- Doc
The nutty “poet” returns:
Date: Sat, 23 Feb 2008 13:39:28 -0600
Subject: Re: QUAGMIRE & IMPEACHMENT
I feel honored to receive such a thoroughly voluminous, engaging, and rational dissection!
Almost like an innocent “enemy combatant” detainee receiving so much undeserving torture, when I simply have no really good hard information to give back to you in return for your favor.
Since this piece was crafted as a POETIC I.E.D. BLAST full in the face of the SO MISERABLY FAILED ENTIRE NEOCON AGENDA — please take your big load of self serving facts to some other STATISTICS for LIARS: SPEW RECYCLING CENTER SCALE to weight them in over there. They might even fork over at least a few bucks to you.
The visceral right-brain message of this poem resonates truthfully with REAL PATRIOTS, both conservative and progressive, transcending partisan perspectives.
I offer just one little $tatistic to drop in your bag => Dollar value of Iraq’s proven, in-ground oil reserves (NOT the # of DRY sucking Texas wells, honey):
Pre-Invasion =>$2 TRILLION Now 5YRs later, Post-Invasion => $9+ TRILLION ““““` “Profits future sure looks bright”er by about several TRILLION!!
You will need a whole canteen full of radical, war monger, Reich-Wing NeoConfusion Kool-Aid to swallow that single fact. All your other ones simply pale with irrelevance by comparison.
Your NEOship-of-state is listing badly, taking on stagnant water big time, and soon heading to the bottom of the stinking NEOswamp. The mutiny has begun!
Send me a POEM sometime soon and I will try to do as good a job of dissecting it as you did! —————-All the Best, -Armadillo
Thank you for proving my assertions; especially the one about you needing medication.
Intelligent point-by-point refutations complete with facts to back them up, are way beyond your 6th grade level of comprehension. Don’t like the facts Rich? Truth hurts, doesn’t it? Especially when it flies in the face of cockeyed liberal rhetoric.
When it comes to kool-aid drinking, I think you’ve imbibed quite a bit. Radical leftwingnut wackjobs like you, are the reason why some people should submit to an IQ test before they’re allowed to vote….or breed.
Just reading your “replies” is a study in mental retardation.
The only “mutiny” going on is between those voices in your head.
And you’re still a shitty poet.
You leftwingnuts are a laugh a minute. Loosen up your tinfoil hat, it’s too tight.
Let’s dissect your looney rant:
1. If you think your vote doesn’t count, then don’t vote.
2. NeoRadical Democrap Al Gore tried to suppress the thousands of absentee ballots cast by the military in 2000. Mine was one of them. When it comes to vote cheating, the dems have a corner on the market. In spite of the “Motor Voter” law signed by Bubba Clinton and registering illegal aliens and dead people, they still were unsuccessful in their bid to steal the election.
3. Only about 2,000 wells have been drilled in Iraq, compared to about 1 million wells in Texas alone. The U.S. only imports 11.3 million barrels of oil from Iraq.
In comparison, imports from other major OPEC oil-producing countries:
Saudi Arabia – 56.2 million barrels
Venezuela 20.2 million barrels
Nigeria 19.3 million barrels
Kuwait – 5.9 million barrels
Algeria – 1.2 million barrels
If we did take over every rig in Iraq instead of putting it back into their economy and letting them export it, we’d be paying 3 cents instead of about 3 bucks (and in some states, even more) at the pump. Read and learn before you spew bullshit that isn’t true. All about the oil, my ass
4. Start a fight? Funny, I thought Islamic thugs who were supported throughout the Middle East, including Iraq and Afghanistan, threw the first punch on 9/11. Secondly, the al Qaeda will cross borders no matter where we struck back, which is why I would have transformed Syria, Iraq, Iran, and Afghanistan into asphalt parking lots on 12 September 2001. That’s how you fight a “jihad”. But, I’m a former Soldier, not a politician. Our policy should be simple: You attack us and we annihilate you, your supporters, your country, everything.
The reasons we are in Iraq and Afghanistan, in case you forgot:
Afghanistan: The major base of operations for Bin Laden, Al Qaeda and Taliban.
Iraq: U.N. Resolution 1441, for starters. You ought to read it sometime. Hussein thumbed his nose at the U.N. for 12 years and continued to develop WMD in direct violation of the resolutions. He was a viable threat, a megalomaniac, and a loose cannon. If you think that we could have merely focused on Afghanistan (I’m sure you’re pissed about that too), without Hussein eventually getting involved, just like Syria and Iran are now, you are even more stupid than you let on.
Oh yeah, and WMDs:
1,500 gallons of chemicals believed destined for attacks on U.S. and Iraqi forces and civilians.
1.77 metric tons of enriched uranium and roughly 1000 highly radioactive sources.
Warheads loaded with Sarin
IEDs and artillery shells containing Sarin
We did not wait until Hussein had the ability and chance to use them on US forces in the region. I was over there, and I’m damned glad we eradicated the son of a bitch and destroyed the WMDs we found.
And Hussein’s ties to terrorists: The Mother of All Connections:
1. “Pulled the towers”??? Oh I get it, besides being a piss-poor poet, you’re also one of those crazy “Troofers”. That shit has been debunked so many times by sane people; scientists, architects, engineers, some of whom built the World Trade Center. Again, read the facts before you spew:
Bottom line up front: The structural damage caused by the inferno as a result of a combination of jet fuel and material catching fire in the buildings, caused them to collapse. No one was standing on a grassy knoll with a remote.
2. Habeas Corpus: Well, so far ‘gummint’ baddies haven’t dragged you off to a dungeon somewhere.
If you’re referring to GITMO and Abu Grahib: all of those slugs were captured after firefights, caught planting IED’s, and arrested as part of sweeps for terrorist cells. I won’t lose one minute’s sleep over it, either.
3. No draft: That’s right, sweetcakes. Those who enlisted, whether before or after 9/11, should be smart enough to figure out two things: They don’t get to pick and choose the conflicts; the country sends them where they are needed. And secondly, we are at war. Deployment is a 99.9% done deal. Can’t deal with that? Don’t enlist.
4. “No marriage for queers” . Wow, that’s quite a leap of the conspiracy imagination. Either that, or it’s the only phrase you could rhyme with “jeers”.
Nice going, Longfellow.
5. You forgot to include the democraps in your “fat cat” complaint. The majority of the nation’s wealthiest congressional districts are represented by Democrats and more than half of the richest households are in the 18 states in which Democrats control both Senate seats. They reside in places like the Hamptons, Martha’s Vinyard, Malibu, and some pretty nice diggs in D.C. Slum denizens, they ain’t. They, like their Republican counterparts, receive a six figure salary just for getting elected.
Oh, did I forget to mention that democrats have corporate investments, too?
1. American Flagged-draped coffins happen in every war:
WWI Deaths: 116,516 Wounded: 204,002 Total casualties: 320,518
WWII : Deaths 291,557 Wounded 670,846
Korean War: Deaths: 33,629
Vietnam War: Deaths: 58,238 Wounded: 128,000
And those numbers don’t include the deaths and wounded from allied countries.
The casualties in the Iraq/Afghanistan war don’t even come close, pal. Don’t even try to pretend that you’re concerned about the troops. You’re about as fake as a Chappaquiddick neckbrace. If you were all about “support”, you’d be glad that brave Soldiers, people far better than you, are ensuring that Islamofascist pigs don’t get that world-wide Caliphate they’re after. War is sometimes a necessary thing. WE WERE ATTACKED. We are hitting them back where they live, and they’re not happy little camel jockeys anymore. They’re getting beaten to a pulp. Why do you think the MSM has stopped reporting on Iraq and Afghanistan? Good news=bad news for leftist rags and broadcasters.
2. Pity the Iraqi families? Where was your pity through about 40 years of Saddam Hussein’s nerve gas atrocities, mass graves, and oppression? Not a peep out of you liberal nutbags. Ditto for the victims of the Taliban scum in Afghanistan.
3. Veteran’s care has steadily improved thanks to funding and investigations of neglect. I personally received some of the best care in my Army career at places like Bethesda. The disabled veterans are getting excellent treatment and rehabilitation for wounds and injuries. Again, you don’t know what the fuck you’re talking about.
4. Fox News is always at the top of your ‘whine’ list. MSNBC’s raving moonbat, Keith Olbermann, has done quite a job being a mouth organ for sedition and Islamofascism. Too bad his ratings suck, huh? Bill O’Reilly beats his ass soundly. Matter of fact, Fox News as a whole, beats the shit out of the major networks. I’m glad. For the last four decades we’ve heard and read quite enough anti-military/anti-American bullshit from the NBC-CBS-ABC-PBS-CNN conglomerate. Fox News may be pro-American biased, but it’s MY kind of bias, for a change.
The “mission accomplished” sign hung on the deck of the USS Abraham Lincoln after the successful completion of their tour of duty. The sign was placed there by the Navy, not Bush. The mealy-mouths in the media never told that part of the story.
Really? What would you call an attack that killed 3000 innocent people on American soil? Misunderstood?
Occupation? Shit, we’ve “occupied” Europe, Japan, and South Korea, for over 60 years following WWII right through the Cold war. Nobody “agressed” us from Somalia or the Balkans, but that didn’t stop Bubba Clinton, now did it?
Chinagate, Travelgate, perjury, FBI Filegate….The Clinton regime stunk to high heaven.
You mean like the dozens of plots that get ferreted out and/or thwarted against terrorists operating within our own country? The Fort Dix six, Christopher Paul, Richard Reid… Or in Britain? 24 suspects who were plotting to blow up at least 10 transatlantic aircraft were arrested there, too.
If they weren’t caught by the security you fear so much….
Yep, much to the dismay of the dems and muslim fanatics.
They volunteered, and were sent as part of the war effort. BTW: The surge accomplished the mission. (there’s that phrase, again) Even ABC had to give grudging admission.
Speaking of debt, democrap John Murtha just won the “Porker of the Year” award from Citizens Against Government Waste.
The deficit has existed for years, no matter who was in office. You’re a day late and a dollar short.
Hey, whatever it takes to get information. That’s another thing that won’t keep me awake at night.
How bout we get “Blinky” Pelosi, Harry “White Flag” Reid, and “da rest of dose bums”?
Lieberman is the only democrat that’s worth a shit.
How about these traitors:
Bill Clinton and Al Gore: Used the Oval Office for an eight-year crime spree. Perjury during a sexual harrassment case was what got him impeached, but that was just the tip of Bubba’s iceberg. Both gave classified technology to Chinese arms merchants in exchange fo campaign contributions.
That is TREASON. That alone should have put both those SOBs UNDER Leavenworth.
He also illegally obtained FBI files on “political enemies” and lied about their existence, but they showed up on Hillary’s desk after a couple of years of being “misplaced”.
BTW: His response to the FIVE terrorist attacks against Americans during his term: ZERO. The Embassy bombings in Kenya and Tanzania, the USS Cole, Khobar Towers, and the first World Trade Center attack in 1993, resulted in Bubba biting his quivering lower lip, tearing up, and doing absolutely nothing…Oh wait, that’s right, he wagged the dog by bombing KOSOVO.
And these traitors:
Remember the “Baghdad Democrats”?
This fine example of Democratic “leadership” insisted that the Iraqi regime “should be given the benefit of the doubt on inspections and disarmament.” They gave aid and comfort to the enemy. TREASON.
Here’s an excerpt from an article describing the reaction of the Middle East extremists:
You got that, Ledford? They pulled a Jane Fonda (another traitor), and have yet to get the prosecution they deserve.
Sorry to interupt your wet dream, but the war is legal, Congress approved it, and Bush and Cheney will serve out their public office until John McCain is likely sworn in as the next President.
Take your meds.
Note from SFCMAC:
Ooooooooo, lookie here. We got ourselves a regular frustrated leftwingnut who thinks he’s good at prose:
2008 Middle East Spelling Bee Final Words: QUAGMIRE & IMPEACHMENT
~~~Poetic Torch Scorches the NeoDem-RepubliCon Agenda
What Americans think, feel, vote, and say has zero bite.
With millions of votes Diebolt stolen, accountability – so slight.
NeoRadical RepubliCons chose how to so waste our might —
Just where, when, and why we had to go START a fight.
They’d planned for Iraq, with 30 years more oil still in sight.
Must control the price and flow into OUR gas tanks, right?
Exxon-Mobil, BP, Shell – profits future sure looks bright!
Hyped bogus threats, then fanned the flames to such great height.
9/11, Anthrax, then the mushroom cloud type of fright.
Pulled the Towers, and with balled-up flags to plug their ears:
A Patriot Act panic attack => waived our rights to calm the fears.
How well a shredded Constitution wiped away our wasted tears.
Slick magic trick: lasted 800 years – now Habeas Corpus disappears.
Load the planes with C-notes, no bids please, as toxic dust clears;
Corporate warriors – No Draft! It’s a private war – Three Cheers!
Fat cats, still fed by exce$$ greed, now six straight years.
Ten billion fraud, whistleblowers stalled in Justice: no one hears.
Say what, a change of plan to end war profits? Sharpen up the spears!
Another traitor to be skewered, trot out the NeoCon-tradicting seers.
From Limpbowel, O’Rlie-to-me, and their ilk, we start to hear the jeers.
Interrupting homophobic rants on “No Marriages for queers”,
To deliver freshly think-tank-framed simplistic scripted smears.
Sad sight, so many flags draped over coffins never seen.
The sinister lies that filled them burried deep beneath such patriotic sheen.
Human losses well disguised, and media filtered from our collective eyes,
By corporate puppet leaders, whose agendas we must now despise.
Pity the Iraqi families, alone with blood, pain, death, despair,
Depleted uranium shells exploding – poison dust spreads everywhere,
While pompous jingo windbags fill the U.S. propaganda-polluted air,
Can spews of false praise glory, hide true neglect in veterans’ care?
Fox Snooze hype NOT, as your heroes, our loved ones lost;
Their blood for oil – spent badly – much too high this cost.
Keith Rupert Murderdoch, the boss who must be tossed!
Long past his “Mission Accomplished” day in years now more than four,
One so delusional Decider is still not looking for an exit door.
An occupation, one aggressor means it never was a war!
The stench, the smell – corruption, failures everywhere,
Yet all we hear is that which plays upon our deepest fear.
A drone of platitudes preached to stretch our stay another year.
“The job is almost done! “
“Must keep them Terrorists on the run!”
“We can’t abandon Iraq until we’ve won.”
“Another 30,000 surge, send us your brave sons.”
“ Trillion dollar debts, their kids can pay these no small sums!”
“Waterboarding works. Don’t call it torture. You’re just chums!”
NO NO NO! Time true Patriots stand and shout “Impeach these Bums!”
Lean hard on traitors, like Lieberman, to not just lose their parties,
But to find our Republic again, while we still have one!
Target the REAL Axis of Evil => IMPEACH Cheney-Bush!
Perhaps small justice, but at least some!
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I’m surprised Murtha, Kucinich, and Reid haven’t been invited as well.
The most striking thing about the IVAW et al, is much they know so much about so little.
“I wonder if John Kerry will be on hand.”
It sure wouldn’t surprise me. He can give them lots of advise on how to lie and suck up to the MSM
Good read BTW.