New York Times: ‘Glenn Beck Incites Violence by Pointing Out that Francis Fox Piven Advocates Violence’

The New York Times is one the worst rags in the publishing industry. Ever.  The idiocy of the writers and editors has reached bat-shit crazy levels.  

On his radio show Monday, Glenn Beck responded to criticism from a New York Times article that he is inciting violence by focusing on Frances Fox Piven’s calls for revolution. His response? It’s a “hatchet job.” And he’s not the only one saying it.
First the charge: by focusing on Piven — who the Times insinuates isn’t really calling for violent revolution — Beck is fostering hate against her, hate that includes talk of violence by commenters on this site.

(Read and listen to Piven’s own words.)

As Beck pointed out, the group the Times quotes in its article has ties to George Soros. In the piece, the Times references a letter sent from the Center for Constitutional Rights (CCR) to the chairman of Fox News, Roger Ailes, asking him to stop Beck from spreading “false accusations” about Piven.

“Mr. Beck is putting Professor Piven in actual physical danger of a violent response,” the Times quoted the letter as saying. The group continued: “We are vigorous defenders of the First Amendment. However, there comes a point when constant intentional repetition of provocative, incendiary, emotional misinformation and falsehoods about a person can put that person in actual physical danger of a violent response.”

But what the Times does not mention is that the organization has had the backing of George Soros, the man who has declared war on Beck and has invested millions in organizations that are trying to get Beck off the air.

A background on Cloward and Piven:

The Cloward/Piven Strategy is named after Columbia University sociologists Richard Andrew Cloward and Frances Fox Piven. Their goal is to overthrow capitalism by overwhelming the government bureaucracy with entitlement demands. The created crisis provides the impetus to bring about radical political change.

According to Discover the

Rather than placating the poor with government hand-outs, wrote Cloward and Piven, activists should work to sabotage and destroy the welfare system; the collapse of the welfare state would ignite a political and financial crisis that would rock the nation.

Making an already weak economy even worse is the intent of the Cloward/Piven Strategy. It is imperative that we view the American Recovery and Reinvestment Plan’s spending on items like food stamps, jobless benefits, and health care through this end goal. This strategy explains why the Democrat plan to “stimulate” the economy involves massive deficit spending projects. It includes billions for ACORN and its subgroups such as SHOP, and the S-Chip Program through deficit spending in a supposed effort to “save the children” only makes a faltering economy worse.

If Congress were to allow a robust economy, parents would be able to provide for their children themselves by earning and keeping more of their own money. Democrats, quick to not waste a crisis, would consider that a lost opportunity.

The Cloward-Piven strategy in a nutshell: Forcing political change through an orchestrated crisis.
Sound familiar?

If the NYT wants examples of full blown incitement of violence, they can ask Francis herself:

In a piece from The Nation in December, Piven says the unemployed must get angry, and explains that an effective jobless movement will look like the violent riots in Greece and England:

“So where are the angry crowds, the demonstrations, sit-ins and unruly mobs?” she writes. “After all, the injustice is apparent. Working people are losing their homes and their pensions while robber-baron CEOs report renewed profits and windfall bonuses.  Shouldn’t the unemployed be on the march? Why aren’t they demanding enhanced safety net protections and big initiatives to generate jobs?” […]

An effective movement of the unemployed will have to look something like the strikes and riots that have spread across Greece in response to the austerity measures forced on the Greek government by the European Union, or like the student protests that recently spread with lightning speed across England in response to the prospect of greatly increased school fees.

I could swear I see Bolsheviks waving red hammer and sickle flags. The measures of which she speaks aren’t the kind you’ll find in Tea Party protests. The “enhanced safety net protections and big initiatives to generate jobs” that she says people should demand, have nothing to do with free market capitalism in a Democratic Republic. She likes big brother socialist government as a so-called “safety net”.  The “big initiatives to generate jobs” refer to centralized government ownership and control of the means of production. Karl Marx had the same ideas.
She salivates at the thought of Euro-style riots by SEIU/AFL-CIO union thugs, Code Pink, A.N.S.W.E.R., La Raza, Eco-terrorists, Worker’s World Party, and the rest of the proletariat wannabes who make a living out of ‘speaking troof ta powa’ and sucking off the welfare teat.

One of the Left’s standard memes:  Those who speak of the radical, violent, anti-democracy, anarchistic tendencies of leftwing wackjobs are advocating violence

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8 thoughts on “New York Times: ‘Glenn Beck Incites Violence by Pointing Out that Francis Fox Piven Advocates Violence’”

  1. [As a taxpayer and retired Soldier, I EARNED my pension through 30 years of service.]

    So for 30 years, you had someone tell you what time to get up, fed you, clothed you, provided you with housing — all on the taxpayer’s dime, and you’re going to sit there and tell me you’re a capitalist? For 30 years, you lived in a socialist segment of the United States. You’re a freeloader. Why didn’t you go out and get a real job instead of living off the government?

    1. Hoffman,
      For 30 years I worked as an analyst in tactical and strategic intelligence and counter terrorism. I led troops and went into harms way. When mortars and SCUDS were launched at us, when I was in areas permeated with mines and unexploded munitions, in Ground Assault Convoys, and in forward units assessing the enemy situation, and giving Fire Support Element guys enemy targets to shoot at, I don’t recall your worthless ass being anywhere around to tell me that I didn’t have a “real job”.

      I wasn’t told “when to get up”, I knew what my duties and responsiblities were.

      The “taxpayer’s dime”???? MY taxpayer’s dime was included in that scenario. Or did you convieniently forget that part?

      You reap all the benefits of a Democratic Republic; freedoms guaranteed by Soldiers who are sworn to protect and defend the Constitution and the United States against all enemies–foreign and domestic. A Soldier is on call 24/7. It’s not a “9-5” occupation. I had served in two wars with some of the finest Soldiers I’ve ever known. We wrote a blank check to our country for up to and including our lives.

      Tell you what, you sorry sack of shit, I DARE you to go to any Army unit, especially in Iraq or Afganistan, and tell those Soldiers they’re “freeloaders”. Go up to a disabled vet and tell him/her that they’re just “living off the government”. Go to a Memorial Day ceremony and tell those veterans they’re just part of a “socialist” segment of society.

      I guarantee you that anyone who says such a thing to my face, will be picking their teeth up off the floor.

      We work for a living. Our salaries are comparable to a Congressman’s lunch tab. There are duties and responsiblities in a Non-Commissioned officer’s life that don’t come with the pay, it comes with the stripes. Soldiers have far more dedication, courage, and sense of duty than you’ll ever have the capacity to understand.

      I and my fellow Soldiers were fighting an Islamofascist enemy, who would gladly subject you and your nihilist comrades to a Caliphate, while you sat on your freeloading lard ass and spewed tripe on the “Drudge Retort”.

      You call that a job?

      Look, Hoffman, you’re nothing more than a bitch boy on a leftwingnut website, and that’s all you’ll ever be. You’ve never done a hard day’s work in your entire miserable life. You’ve never contributed anything to society. You’ve never done anything relevant. You’re an abject loser who isn’t fit to lick the boots of a United States Soldier.

      Go get a McJob. At least you’ll be doing something besides writing stupid shit and trying to look smart on subjects you know nothing about.

      SFC MAC

  2. [I’m a retired Army Sergeant First Class on a pension. I’m not on “welfare”. ]

    The hell you’re not. That IS welfare. My tax dollars are paying for you to sit on your ass. You’re nothing but a little welfare queen. If you like socialism so much, why don’t you move to Venezuela or Cuba?

    1. Uh, scuse me dickwad:
      I paid taxes throughout my Army career, and I continue to pay taxes on my pension. As a taxpayer and retired Soldier, I EARNED my pension through 30 years of service. After three decades of living and working in austere conditions at sub-standard salary, I’ve earned the right to do as I please. What have you ever done besides exist as a worthless sack of skin, regurgitating bullshit on a site with a ripped-off name? The Drudge Retort….ROFLMAO!
      While you were sitting on your fat ass in your La-Z-Boy, I was serving in harm’s way in places like Iraq. Soldiers—people far better than you—do the heavy lifting and make sacrifices so that asswipes like you can sit at a keyboard and write absurd statements, comparing earned military pensions to welfare, and bitch about the socialist utopia that won’t materialize, thanks to Americans who told the Dems to take a flying fucking leap.

      Welfare is unearned income by derelicts who do not, or have never worked, and tend to pass it along to their kids like a family heirloom. Some of my tax dollars go to the armed forces to defend even worthless jackoffs like you. Too bad that much of it goes to fund socialist wet dreams that have bankrupted the country. How does it feel to be a sugar daddy for the Harlem welfare breeding machines?

      I like free-market capitalism, not your socialist ObamaCare and centralized government tactics by the heretofore Dem-controlled Congress.

      If you like socialism so much, which is quite evident in your diatribes, Venezuela is the place for you. If the Dems ever succeed at “fundamentally transforming” America into a Banana Republic, Hugo Chavez is the preview of coming attractions. The State has ownership of everything–from the media to business. Sounds like your kinda guy.

      “Hey, Obama has just nationalized nothing more and nothing less than General Motors. Comrade Obama! Fidel, careful or we are going to end up to his right,” Chavez joked on a live television broadcast.

      Head up ass

      You are a sad, pathetic excuse for DNA. Get a real job.

      SFC MAC

  3. Look dumb shit — Since the Republicans took control of the House, in only 20 days they’ve increased the federal debt by 68 BILLION DOLLARS. 20 days! That’s insane. How can you support such insanity? The federal debt is now well over 14 TRILLION DOLLARS!

    Our debt was about 5 TRILLION DOLLARS when Bush took office and we had budget surpluses. In only eight years, the Republicans doubled the debt! When Bush left office, it was over 10 TRILLION DOLLARS. When Reagan took office, the federal debt was 1 TRILLION DOLLARS and when he left, it was three times that. We’re paying 500 BILLION DOLLARS a year just on interest on the debt. Obama inherited huge deficits and every effort to control the deficit was defeated by Republicans.

    And don’t try to use the simple-minded right-wing talking point that it was spending that caused the deficits. Do you really want to give up your social security? No, I didn’t think so. You enjoy living on welfare.

    1. Look, ya fuckstick:
      The Dems HAD CONTROL OF THE CONGRESS FROM 2007 until now. Obama has added a whopping total of 4 trillion to the debt since 2008, it’s projected to be at least 16-20 trillion by the time he gets through. The federal deficit reached $14 trillion BEFORE the Republican majority was sworn in. Nice try on the history revison. You failed.
      You like spending? You’ll love the debt he leaves for at least the next three generations.
      This proves beyond a doubt that you are an abject idiot:

      And don’t try to use the simple-minded right-wing talking point that it was spending that caused the deficits.

      A few more facts for you intellectually bankrupt morons:

      The Wall Street Journal‘s editorial page did an analysis of the federal government’s debt that will be held by the public over the coming decade. When the Democrats took control of Congress in 2007, the debt held by the public was 36.2% of GDP. It rose to 40.2% the next year. This year it will be about 63.6%, next year 68.6%, then 77% of GDP in 2020. And the Obama administration’s budget estimates 218% in 2050.

      The reason for these rising deficits is the huge increases in federal spending–the intended growth of the federal government–that Congress and the president are pushing. The deficit in 2007 was $160 billion. In the next year the Pelosi-Reid Congress took it up to $458 billion, and when President Obama came into office in 2009 it hit $1.4 trillion. The current 2010 projected deficit is $1.6 trillion, which will lead to a tripling of our national debt from 2008 to 2020.

      The Dems still don’t get it, either. Pelosi, Reid, Obama, and the rest of the arrogant douchebags, are actually proud of what they’ve done and think we should be grateful for the opportunity to become serfs of the State.

      Only in the book of Obamanomics could 15% unemployment (again, that number includes those who simply stopped looking for work), a $14 trillion debt, a deficit of over $1 trillion, an $814 billion “stimulus”, $787 billion dollars in taxpayer funded bailouts, and government takeovers of banks, auto industry, insurance corporations, and health care, be defined as “stabilizing”. The so-called “stimulus” cost more than the war in Iraq and Afghanistan, combined. Oh, and guess where a lot of it went: To phantom districts, union thugs, and ridiculous earmark projects.

      Obama has added TRILLIONS to what he inherited. But, when all else fails, blame Bush.
      He’s either the biggest moron on the planet or he figures putting a smiley face on his “man-caused disaster” will keep that thrill going up Chrissy Matthew’s leg.
      His “shovel ready” agenda has resulted in skyrocketing unemployment.

      And that wonderful trainwreck, aka ObamaCare, is already having nasty effects on the healthcare system. THE ANNOINTED ONE finally admitted that his socialist health care mandate will raise premiums, but he already knew that.

      ObamaCare hacks are breaking all land speed records running away from this disaster. The most despicable thing is, after all the hard sell spinning, threats, and venomous epithets hurled at opponents, the asswipes who rammed this bill through and supported it, are exempting themselves from the consequences. No one in their right mind wanted this shit to begin with. Now that hospitals are going through severe cutbacks, insurance companies are raising their rates, and doctors are refusing new Medicare patients, all in anticipation of the 2014 start of ObamaCare, none of them want it.

      Economics 101:

      def·i·cit [ déffissit ]
      Excessive amount spent: the amount by which expenditures exceed income or budget. The amount by which a government, company, or individual’s spending exceeds its income over a particular period of time. also called deficit or deficit spending. Opposite of budget surplus.

      How in the fuck do you think the deficit got so large?

      The estimated population of the United States is 309,916,591, so each citizen’s share of this debt is $45,396.64. The National Debt has continued to increase an average of $4.16 billion per day since September 28, 2007. Right now, the deficit is still is nearly 5% of the $14.2 trillion debt. This is unsustainable.

      A visual aid for the intellectually impaired: WATCH THE NUMBERS:

      Regardless of who is in charge, this economic catastrophe needs to be fixed; less spending, less taxes, fiscal responsibility with regard to the elimination of pork.

      I’m a retired Army Sergeant First Class on a pension. I’m not on “welfare”. Everything I have, I earned. Social Security? Don’t make me laugh. By the time I’m old enough to qualify, it won’t exist. It’s already broke.

      Your sychophantic admiration for a socialist failure is really pathetic, Hoffman.

      But then I expect nothing less from an ignorant Leftard.
      SFC MAC

  4. The day will come where enough Americans get fed up with the conservative policies that have destroyed our country. Maybe a little violence is what’s necessary to put you dumb-fucks in your place. If you want a true free market economy, move to Somalia and see how you like it.

    1. Oh dear. Ben Hoffman rears his ugly head again.

      I’d love to see radical punks try to rampage in my neighborhood. There are quite a few people like me, who are armed and will not hesitate to use them for target practice.

      Bring it.

      Now, some facts for the intellectually challenged:

      The unemployment rate was 7.2% when the Anointed One took office. It’s now close to 10% (officially), but when you figure in all the people who stopped looking for work and ran out of unemployment benefits, it approaches 15%.

      He added over $2.52 trillion to the public debt, which is more than the cumulative total of the national debt held by the public that was amassed by all U.S. presidents from George Washington through Ronald Reagan.

      The national deficit just hit $14 trillion, for the first time in history. The projected national debt will soar to almost $16.5 trillion by 2012; that’s up by $5.9 trillion since his coronation election. That amount is more than 100 percent of the value of the nation’s finances.

      The government takeover of 2/3rds of the auto industry, the collapse of the housing market thanks to Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, the god awful billions wasted on “stimulus” (much of which went to pay off union thugs), and the bailouts, are an epic FAIL.

      That’s just the damage he and his Dem cabal did to the economy. The havoc they wreaked on national security, our world standing, and the war against Islamofascist terrorism, is nothing short of disastrous.

      They had the majority of both the House and Senate since 2007, and were waiting for a Dem president to help ram their socialist legislation (including ObamaCare) down the throats of the American people. Now that the consequences have hit the fan, they blame angry Americans, and when all else fails, George W. Bush. Autocracies resent having power wrested from their possession by the unruly masses. Accountability is just as foreign to them as the constitution.

      Their craven, execrable behavior is the exact reason why the Tea Party movement started and gained momentum.

      Your Dem pals got shellacked in the mid-term elections because the American people got fed up with their hubris, arrogance, and distain for the Constitution and free speech. Obama and his cabinet of socialist assclowns will be gone in 2012. In the meantime, it will be a pleasure watching you delusional Leftards wail and gnash your teeth, while the Republican congressional majority unfucks all the damage Pelosi and Reid did during the last two years.

      Somalia’s economy is largely informal and agrarian, with very few skilled laborers, and only $600 per capita. The country is a cesspool of corruption, tribal and civil wars, and a breeding ground for terrorist groups. “Free market economy” is not a term that anyone with brains would use to describe Somalia.

      100,000 sperm and you were the fastest??

      Ya dumb fuck.

      SFC MAC

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