Oh,fer gawd’s sake, let’s not offend the muslims.
Peter Gadiel wants everyone to remember his son, James, who was killed during the September 11 terrorist attacks.
And he also wants people to remember how he died: “Murdered by Muslim terrorists.”
For Gadiel, any tribute to his son would be woefully incomplete without those words.
“I think it’s important, because I think there’s a nationwide effort to suppress the identity of the people who were involved in the attacks,” Gadiel told Fox News.
Eight years ago, 23-year-old James Gadiel worked for Cantor Fitzgerald on the 103rd floor of the World Trade Center. He died when a hijacked plane crashed into the North Tower.
For years, Gadiel’s hometown of Kent, Conn., has wanted to honor the young man with a memorial plaque next to its town hall. But the tribute has hit a snag because James’ father wants to include the phrase, “Murdered by Muslim terrorists,” under his son’s name.
For Peter Gadiel, it is a central fact of the Sept. 11 attacks that is often left out.
“It isn’t just overlooked, it’s suppressed,” Gadiel said. “It’s simply wrong to imply that people just died. The buildings didn’t just collapse, they didn’t just fall down — they were attacked by people with a specific identity, a specific purpose.”
Town officials call the phrase too controversial for a small town memorial, and they recently voted against erecting the plaque if Gadiel insists on the language.
“We perceive ourselves as a very warm, loving town,” said Ruth Epstein, a Kent selectman and one of two town leaders to vote the plaque down. “To disparage any one ethnic group is just against everything that we stand for here.”
……”Muslims have to acknowledge that it was their co-religionists who committed this act in their name,” he said. “I am offended that unlike so many others, they refuse to acknowledge that it was their people who did this.”
MUSLIM terrorists declared war on the West, but we “shouldn’t disparage their ethnic group”. Can you imagine the Pearl Harbor memorial excluding the fact that thousands of military personnel were slaughtered by the Japanese, or the Normandy memorial leaving out the fact that allied troops engaged the German enemy?
3000 people were systematically murdered by MUSLIM terrorists, with a stated purpose to spill the blood of non-muslim “infidels”, and to strike at the heart of this country. Give credit where it’s due.
Liberal creampuffs like Epstein obviously didn’t have 9/11 hit close enough to their own back yards. Just what the hell do they “stand for”? Bizzare political correctness to appease an ethnic group whose members are sworn enemies of the United States. That’s not “standing” for anything. That’s cowardice.
You can contact Ruth at this email: firstname.lastname@example.org
I already sent my regards.
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Instead of presenting legitimate arguments?
You are too stupid to see a legitimate argument when it is presented to you. Ask someone to read the two sentences before I asked you to rate your intelligence. Obviously you’re too dumb to see the stupidity of your reply, but someone may have better luck than me explaining that to you.
“Narcissistic!”….”Stupid!”….”Delusions of grandeur!”….”Dumb!”….”Stupidity!”
LOL! My, what a selection of retorts. I’m impressed.
You don’t have the ability to sustain a coherent, intelligent argument. And indeed sarcasm does go right over your pointy head.
The ‘intelligence’ behind the statement: “By the way: Hasan yelled “Allah u Akbar” before he pulled the trigger. It had EVERYTHING to do with religion”, is substantiated by Hasan’s own words, background, and radical activity. He immersed himself in radical Islam and carried out his own personal jihad. You really should put your reading and comprehension skills (if you have any) to use.
And of course, the Koran.
It was a manifestation of the Islamic code and culture of violence.
The scale measuring your guilessness still stands.
“Of course, I also have boots-on-the-ground battlefield experience in places like the Middle East, where you have never been.”
Being a dumbass narcissist you keep making baseless assumptions.
I use ad hominem attacks, but I also refute, point by point, every argument put forth by the person I debate.
Being an obtuse nitwit and repeating frivolous accusations of “narcissist” and “dumbass”, instead of presenting legitimate arguments, doesn’t make you look very good. Is that all you got?
Denial ain’t a river in Egypt.
“I thought by now you’d be riding off on your camel”
Ain’t you one bigoted piece of crap?
“I just don’t feel the need to hide.”
I was referring to your lack of skills to figure out whether or not there is a proxy server. When something reads “Proxy: None detected” it’s exactly what it is. Just because it’s not detected, it doesn’t mean it’s not there.
“For 30 years I dedicated my life to something larger and more important than myself; my Army and my Country.”
Either that, or you were just too dumb to do anything else. 30 years and all you have to show for it is SFC? You must have been demoted almost as often as you were promoted.
“I’d rate it about … a 20.”
No wonder. Delusions of grandeur and stupidity always go hand-in-hand. When I say that something is black and you correct me saying, no, it is black, you must be the only one not to realize how stupid you come off.
You keep waving goodbye but ya just can’t tear yourself away. Pathetic.
Bigoted? You are one humorless muslim.
The fact that there is a proxy server was quite obvious in the second trace. (“Suspected Network Sharing Device….Corporate”)
It doesn’t take any special skill except reading comprehension.
“Too dumb…” Hardly. But then, you’re a muslim male with a fragile ego. I expect nothing less.
I’ll make it so simple that even a civilian with no military experience can understand.
I served a total of 20 Active Duty years and 10 years Reserve.
I first enlisted into active duty in 1976. I left active duty in 1979, at the rank of PFC, and transfered to the Army Reserves. During my stint in the Reserves, I was promoted to SPC then to SGT. I re-enlisted into Active Duty in 1989. Army regulations specify that if you re-enter active duty after a certain time frame, you must pick up at the rank you had when you left active duty. I made rank back to SGT in less than a year. I was promoted to SSG in 1993, and to SFC in 1999. I was up for promotion to MSG in 2006, but went ahead and retired. While I was “too dumb to do anything else” I earned a college degree along with education from a multitude of Army schools and training courses. Of course, I also have boots-on-the-ground battlefield experience in places like the Middle East, where you have never been.
While you were busy becoming a “scholar” of a 7th Century screed and bowing to Mecca several times a day, I and my fellow Soldiers were in harm’s way protecting your right to worship a religion diametrically opposed to freedom and democratic principles. And, you’re welcome.
Okay, you’ve graduated your pejorative term from “narcissistic” to “delusions of grandeur”. Gawd forbid someone should point out the intrinsic malevolence of Islam, and that “moderate” muslims are an oxymoron.
As for the “20” on a “one to ten scale”, sarcasm goes right over your head.
You’re a frustrated pseudo-intellectual who would rather prop up his argument with hilarious accusations of “narcissism” and “delusions of grandeur”, than admit the religion he practices is well, fucked.
Your “muslims against sharia” concept will never do any good unless fundamental changes are made both in the Koran and with the millions of Islamic radicals.
And we both know that will never happen.
Now, you’ll either return with another condescending hissy fit, or you’ll make good on your “I don’t see the point of continuing this”. Either way, you’ve certainly been entertaining.
Don’t forget to round up those “moderates”.
“Proxy: None detected”
Don’t feel bad. You’re not the only one who lacks the skills (or the technology.)
“If you were a fraction of the Soldier I was, or the person I am”
Seriously, you should address those narcissistic issues.
Me: “I’d rather harass Islamonazis who claim that Hasan’s murderous rampage at Ft. Hood had nothing to do with religion.”
You: “By the way: Hasan yelled “Allah u Akbar” before he pulled the trigger. It had EVERYTHING to do with religion.”
On the scale from one to ten, who would you rate your intelligence?
You’re back? I thought by now you’d be riding off on your camel to round up all those “moderate muslims”.
As for proxy servers, I just don’t feel the need to hide. Incidentally, I reduced your ridiculous 548 character CIP protest URL down to a shorter link. Use the http://tinyurl.com/ site next time, so people won’t think your computer skills are lacking.
Narcissistic. That’s funny as hell. For 30 years I dedicated my life to something larger and more important than myself; my Army and my Country. Just as millions of other Soldiers have done. If it makes you feel better to label confidence, experience, knowledge, and credibilty as “narcissistic”, then knock yourself out.
Seriously bud, you need to address those denial issues. Maybe the ISNA can lend a hand, or better yet, a trip out of your own back yard.
I’d rate it about as high as your level of guilelessness; about a 20. You really should read about Hasan’s background, his motivation, and his avowed religious beliefs, before you debate this issue. Otherwise, you look plain foolish.
What’s sad about you is that you really believe you can overcome a religious ideology rife with vitriol and terrorism. You’d have to overhaul the entire Koran and change the minds of millions of radical Islamists.
You run along now, and mobilize those “moderate muslims”.
“I was also assigned to the Defense Intelligence Agency where I helped track, profile, and compile information on terrorists and terrorist organizations, worldwide. … That makes me more of an expert than someone living outside of St. Petersburg, Russia. Ever been to the land of your Islamic origins?”
You must have done quite a shitty job “tracking” if you can’t even see the proxy server.
“Islam is more of an ideology than a religion.”
That’s your ignorant opinion. But since we already know what a crappy analyst you are, you won’t even address your Islamic scholarship credentials.
“Also, the Crusades, which you alluded to in the comment: “Remember what Christians were doing when Christianity was 13 centuries old?”, convieniently ignores the fact that they were in direct response to the muslim wars of expansion, including the Turkish Ottomans.”
That’s the problem of narcissists like you. I never alluded to the Crusades. However you’re prone to making unsubstantiated assumptions, i.e., St. Petersburg, Ideology, the Crusades, etc., and representing them as facts. I’m sure in your pretty little head there is no difference between your expert opinion and an actual fact, so don’t let the reality ruin your bliss. In case this needs clarification, I was alluding to “ignorance is bliss.” Our manifesto says: “While the Inquisition was a repulsive practice by Christian Fundamentalists, the Crusades were not unprovoked acts of aggression, but rather attempts to recapture formerly Christian lands controlled by Muslims.” I wonder how much crap you got from your COs for making dumb assumptions.
“The Christian religion has come a long way since Paul’s edicts. Women now hold powerful positions in many denominations. They are Deacons, Episcopal preists, Reverends, and ordained Ministers. Islam? Not so much.”
The head of the largest Muslim organization in North America is a woman. Unfortunately the organization is ISNA, a Muslim Brotherhood branch and the woman is Ingrid Mattson, an apologist for radical Islam, but nonetheless. It proves your ignorance one more time.
“If “moderate muslims” in America (if there is such a thing) actually bothered to come out from hiding, make their voices heard, and put up a fight against CAIR and ISNA, a lot more people would know about you than just the viewers of Fox News.”
Bullshit! Do you even bother to read what I write? I wrote about CIP protest that got ZERO coverage. Susan Myrick had a meeting with some of the most prominent moderate Muslims in America – http://www.walidphares.com/artman/publish/article_2270.shtml. How much coverage did that get? I dare you to show me a single newspaper or a local TV/radio station that covered it.
“I own a .380 Browning semi-automatic.”
If you were a high school girl, it my have impressed me. But a soldier bragging about owning a .380? Do you not see how embarrassing that is? I also own a .380. My wife carries it in her purse. It’s pink. Her purse, not the gun. What color is yours? She may actually give you tips on how to properly separate it from lipstick.
“To which I respond: “Moderate muslims” in America are about as rare as a Jehovah’s Witness in someone’s livingroom, if you get my drift.”
Do you feel compelled to display your ignorance and represent it as facts? Look at the right-hand side of http://muslimsagainstsharia.blogspot.com/ under prominent moderate Muslims. I bet you never heard most of those names, but it doesn’t mean they don’t exist. Granted, moderate Muslims are not in the majority. According to our polls – http://www.reformislam.org/polls/ – about 1/3 of responders are moderate. But it still amounts to about a million people, considering that there are about three million Muslims in America.
To be honest, I don’t see the point of continuing this. Obviously we’re not going to change each other’s minds. And while it’s been fun calling out your bullshit, I’d rather harass Islamonazis who claim that Hasan’s murderous rampage at Ft. Hood had nothing to do with religion. I suggest you do the same instead of trying to point out Koranic inadequacies to moderate Muslims. Chances are they know it much better than you.
I must have really touched an Islamofascist nerve. Project much?
The ISP address on the first results showed this:
ISP: Satel Ltd.
Organization: Satel Ltd.
Proxy: None detected
Country: Russian Federation
City: Saint Petersburg
The second one shows this:
Proxy: Suspected network sharing device.
Country: United States
City: New York
Area Code: 212
You’ll note, oh great Islamic proxy server genius, the proxy server information didn’t appear until your second spit-flecked missive. Proxy servers are difficult to trace, regardless.
Oooooo….go straight for the “you’re a crappy analyst” because my real-life experience can’t possibly compare to a great Islamic scholar like “MASH”.
How peurile and sophomoric.
Opinions are like assholes, everybody’s got one. My credentials are 20 years of experience in tactical (battlefield) and strategic analysis, and counter-terrorism.
For all your bluster, you haven’t been out of your own back yard. Too bad your fragile ego can’t take the facts. Must be that Koranic influence. It’s doesn’t take an intelligence analyst to figure out just how violent and bat-shit crazy muslims are about their jihad. Just ask Nidal Malik Hasan and his friends in the mosque at Ft. Hood.
Well, let’s see… you alluded to the “13th century of Christianity”. Hence, my reference to the Crusades. (From 1096 to 1270) You didn’t cite your great manifesto, but the connection to the Crusades was obvious, sweetpea. Must really piss you off that your ancient muslim brethren got their asses kicked. The only assumptions here are coming from that crap factory you call a brain.
Unfortunately, she’s a token as well as a tool. Congratulations.
Bullshit, as well. ONE CIP protest. Wow. Now if you can just get the rest of the “moderate muslims” to join your cause……
If you were a fraction of the Soldier I was, or the person I am, I’d be willing to give you at least a modicum of respect.
I guarantee anyone on the receiving end of .380 rounds wouldn’t blather about “embarrassment”. I’ve also fired AK47s, M4s, M16s, and .60 cal machine guns. No embarrassment here, sweetpea. I carry a wallet. It’s not large enough to carry a .380.
I’m sure your wife looks quite charming with her pink purse and matching lipstick. I could give her pointers on how to fire weapons at my local shooting range. We’ll use “hadji” targets.
Do you practice your indignant puffery in front of a mirror because it gets good reviews? Here’s a website chock full of the names and news reports of the victims of the “peaceful religion of Islam”: http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/
That 1/3 (one million people) are awful quiet. Responding on your site doesn’t do a whole lot of good when they don’t bother to march, confront radicals, and actually DO SOMETHING besides posting opinions.
Aw…and I was enjoying the prospect of toying with your naivete ad infinitum. It’s been fun exposing your skewed, child-like attachment to a violent ideological religion. By the way: Hasan yelled “Allah u Akbar” before he pulled the trigger. It had EVERYTHING to do with religion.
9/11 and exposure to the muslims in the Middle East taught me everything I need to know about your Koran and your religion. There’s not enough to compensate for all of the Koranic “inadequacies” and accompanying atrocities to convince me otherwise.
Try your spiel on someone who doesn’t know any better.
Good luck trying to mobilize those “moderate muslims”.
Don’t take any wooden dinars.
“I’ve seen the results of your “peaceful religion”.”
Really? I’ve seen the results of terrorism. Does that make me a terrorism expert? I know a brain surgeon. Does that make me qualified to perform brain surgeries?
“Your Koran is chock full of misogyny, anti-Semitism and anti-Christian philosophy”
It is. It also full of things that contradict all that. Have you ever heard that the Koran calls for respect for the “People of the Book,” i.e. Jews and Christians. Parts of the Koran call for genocide, but so do parts of the Bible. Remember what Christians were doing when Christianity was 13 centuries old. Ever heard of the Inquisition? I’m not justifying atrocities committed in the name of Islam, I’m just telling you that Islam is not unique in that way and you are as far from being an Islamic scholar as I am from being a terrorist expert. I am aware of all the crap (http://www.reformislam.org/verses.php) contained in the Koran much better than you are, that’s why we came up with this – http://www.reformislam.org/koran.php.
“Your ridiculous assertion that: “Moderate Muslims can’t do shit (except for a scant letter or a rare website) while radical Muslims have the power of American government behind them”, is absolute bullshit on stilts. Take a lesson from the thousands of Tea Party protesters”
Intelligence analyst? Are you sure? You don’t seem to be ably to analyze simple facts, so let me break it down for ya. Tea Party protesters are supported by half of the country. How many people support moderate Muslims? American Muslim establishment, which is run by radicals, paints us as apostates, fake Muslims, Zionists, and anti-Muslim racists (whatever the fuck that means since Islam is not a race.) Media refuse to deal with us, except for occasional Fox News special. In case you need proof, ask yourself how many people in America heard of CAIR or ISNA and how many people have heard of MASH or CIP? My guess the ratio is 100:1. In the worst case scenario, Tea Party protesters could get roughed up by Obama union thugs. We’d get our heads cut off. Literally. Why do you think many anti-Islamist figures live in “undisclosed locations” or have 24-hour protection? In America no less! And what would be the point of doing those protests anyway? So we could be called “fucking rugheads” by retards who have more guns than teeth? Even in the best case scenario, it will “deliberately … sit in the que for a few days.” At this point protests from moderate Muslims are not an efficient way to deal with the issue.
Have you heard of this CIP protest -http://tinyurl.com/yc6ykqz.
(My note: I reduced your ridiculous 548 character URL down to the link provided above. Use the http://tinyurl.com/ site next time, so people won’t think your computer skills are lacking.—SFC MAC)
I didn’t think so. Moderate Muslims protesting in America is equivalent to a tree falling in the forest.
The only thing we can do at this time is to use our website to educate dumb infidels so they can stop behaving like dhimmis, to expose “moderates” like CAIR and ISNA, and to hope that someone is listening.
Muslims Against Sharia
I’ll make it so simple that even a muslim living in Russia who is afraid to speak out, can understand:
The results of your “peaceful religion”= terrorism
That’s right, “MASH”. I’m a retired Soldier and former Intelligence Analyst who’s been to war in Iraq twice.
I was also assigned to the Defense Intelligence Agency where I helped track, profile, and compile information on terrorists and terrorist organizations, worldwide. I’ve also been to Kuwait and Saudi Arabia. I was an excellent tactical and strategic analyst. I also have experience in geo-political studies. That makes me more of an expert than someone living outside of St. Petersburg, Russia. Ever been to the land of your Islamic origins?
You’re trying to whitewash the philosophy of Islam and those who adhere to it, by making excuses.
Islam is more of an ideology than a religion. You cannot separate the two, especially when Islam incorporates terrorism, misogyny, and “death to the infidel” into its doctrine. (The Koran)
By the way, I’m agnostic. I was raised in the Baptist church, but stopped going at the age of 16. I don’t like any institutionalized religion, especially one that practices terrorism as part of its dogma.
Even a religious skeptic like me can hold the Bible and Koran side by side and see the difference. Christ never once said anything remotely hateful toward other religious sects. Mohammad, on the other hand, spewed some pretty visceral shit. What a guy.
There are only two quotes in the Bible that are detrimental to women:
1 Corinthians 14:34-35: “Let your women keep silence in the churches: for it is not permitted unto them to speak; but they are commanded to be under obedience as also saith the law. And if they will learn any thing, let them ask their husbands at home: for it is a shame for women to speak in the church.”
1 Timothy 2:11-15: “Let the woman learn in silence with all subjection. But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over a man, but to be in silence. For Adam was first formed, then Eve. And Adam was not deceived, but the woman being deceived was in the transgression. Notwithstanding she shall be saved with childbearing, if they continue in faith and charity, and holiness with sobriety.”
In direct contradiction to Paul’s opinions, the Book of Judges (Old Testament) tells about Deborah (in 1200 B.C.) who served as a judge at “the palm tree of Deborah” in southern Ephraim between Ramah and Bethel. She was referred to as the “mother of Israel” because of her leadership in the battle against Canaanite oppression. She led an army of Israelites against an army of Cannanites who outnumbered them 3 to1, and defeated them.
Judges 4:1-16, Judges 4:17-22
The Christian religion has come a long way since Paul’s edicts. Women now hold powerful positions in many denominations. They are Deacons, Episcopal preists, Reverends, and ordained Ministers. Islam? Not so much.
The Koran’s misogyny has already been quoted in my last response.
Your reference to the Inquisition is not surprising. It’s usually one of the stock examples given in any argument about Christianity.
Also, the Crusades, which you alluded to in the comment: “Remember what Christians were doing when Christianity was 13 centuries old?”, convieniently ignores the fact that they were in direct response to the muslim wars of expansion, including the Turkish Ottomans.
Food for thought: If Christians and Jewish civilians really wanted to put a hurt on the Islamic population, they would start giving your terrorism right back at ya, bomb by bomb. Your mosques would be reduced to rubble and your ventures out into public would be incognito and probably under cover of darkness. You better pray to your allah that they don’t get fed up to that point. The “holy war” would take on a whole new aspect.
If “moderate muslims” in America (if there is such a thing) actually bothered to come out from hiding, make their voices heard, and put up a fight against CAIR and ISNA, a lot more people would know about you than just the viewers of Fox News. We’re still waiting for that to happen. I don’t know of any beheadings in America, except for the “honor” killings committed by muslim fathers against their daughters for being “too Westernized”.
Anti-Islamofascist protests would further your cause. THAT’s the point.
This is funny:
Pardon me for correcting your vernacular, but the proper term is “raghead”. We Iraq/Afghanistan war vets also use the term “hadji”.
Anyway, I’m from north of the Mason-Dixon line, I possess a full set of teeth, and I own a .380 Browning semi-automatic. I’ve trained with and fired an assortment of firearms.
To which I respond: “Moderate muslims” in America are about as rare as a Jehovah’s Witness in someone’s livingroom, if you get my drift.
You’ll notice your comment didn’t sit in the que very long.
SFC Cheryl McElroy
US ARMY (RET)
“Come out enmasse. Show the world the so-called “moderate muslims”. I want to see the phantom majority of those who repudiate Islamic violence. I mean by the millions; not a scant letter, post, or rare website.”
That ain’t gonna happen while dhimmi idiots (American electorate) elect other dhimmi idiots (American government) that supports radical Muslims and ignores moderate Muslims. Vast majority of American mosques is run by Muslim extremists. That would not have happened but for the dhimmitude of the government. And what about prison gihad? (Conversion and radicalization of American prisoners.) The reason it’s happening is that dhimmi government that supports radicals like ISNA, CAIR, MPAC, etc. lets those organizations place radical imams in prisons. Moderate Muslims can’t do shit (except for a scant letter or a rare website) while radical Muslims have the power of American government behind them. And on top of everything, every idiot who read a few lines in the Koran feels qualified to discuss Islamic doctrines and provides his/her ignorant opinion any chance he/she gets.
Feel qualified? I’m a retired Army Sergeant First Class, former Intelligence Analyst with a strong background in counter-terrorism, and Iraq War veteran. I’ve seen the results of your “peaceful religion”. Your Koran is chock full of misogyny, anti-Semitism and anti-Christian philosophy, as well as dire consequences for those who don’t ascribe to Mohammad’s Sharia Law. Islamic terrorists are simply following his precepts.
Just a few of those wonderful lines in the Koran:
XVI.8: It may be that your Lord will have mercy on you, and if you (again return to disobedience) we too will return (to punishment), and We have made hell a prison for the unbelievers.
II.161: Surely those who disbelieve and die while they are disbelievers, these it is on whom is the curse of Allah and the angels and men all.
IX. 5-6: Kill those who join other gods with God wherever you may find them.
IV.74: Let those who fight in the cause of God who barter the life of this world for that which is to come; for whoever fights on God’s path, whether he is killed or triumphs, We will give him a handsome reward. (Must be those 72 virgins)
VIII.39-42: Say to the Infidels: if they desist from their unbelief, what is now past shall be forgiven; but if they return to it, they have already before them the doom of the ancients! Fight then against them till strife be at an end, and the religion be all of it God’s.
4.56: (As for) those who disbelieve in Our communications, We shall make them enter fire; so oft as their skins are thoroughly burned, We will change them for other skins, that they may taste the chastisement; surely Allah is Mighty, Wise.
5.51: O you who believe! Do not take the Jews and the Christians for friends; they are friends of each other; and whoever amongst you takes them for a friend, then surely he is one of them; surely Allah does not guide the unjust people.
Just one of the verses concerning women:
4.34: Men are the protectors and maintainers of women, because Allah has given the one more (strength) than the other, and because they support them from their means. Therefore the righteous women are devoutly obedient, and guard in (the husband’s) absence what Allah would have them guard. As to those women on whose part ye fear disloyalty and ill-conduct, admonish them (first), (Next), refuse to share their beds, (And last) beat them (lightly); but if they return to obedience, seek not against them Means (of annoyance): For Allah is Most High, great (above you all)”
Those passages are pretty cut and dry. You cannot mistranslate, misconstrue, or misinterpret their meaning. Muslim terrorists sure as hell aren’t following any peaceful scriptures, now are they?
“Ignorant opinion”, my ass.
Your ridiculous assertion that: “Moderate Muslims can’t do shit (except for a scant letter or a rare website) while radical Muslims have the power of American government behind them”, is absolute bullshit on stilts. Take a lesson from the thousands of Tea Party protesters, you know, those of us who won’t march to Obama’s socialist drum, and have the courage to stand up to our government.
If “moderate muslims” don’t speak out enmasse, it’s because they don’t want to.
Since you’re in the Russian Federation, you can start with the Chenchens. It’s okay to want independence from Russian rule and influence, but what they pulled at Beslan was pretty fucked up.
Oh, and here’s a rundown of some of their other acts of terrorism:
■An August 1999 bombing of a shopping arcade and a September 1999 bombing of an apartment building in Moscow that killed sixty-four people.
■Two bombings in September 1999 in the Russian republic of Dagestan and southern Russian city of Volgodonsk. Controversy still surrounds whether these attacks were conclusively linked to Chechens.
■A bomb blast that killed at least forty-one people, including seventeen children, during a military parade in the southwestern town of Kaspiisk in May 2002. Russia blamed the attack on Chechen terrorists.
■The October 2002 seizure of Moscow’s Dubrovka Theater, where approximately seven hundred people were attending a performance. Russian Special Forces launched a rescue operation, but the opium-derived gas they used to disable the hostage-takers killed more than 120 hostages, as well as many of the terrorists. Basayev took responsibility for organizing the attack and three Chechen-affiliated groups are thought to have been involved.
■A December 2002 dual suicide bombing that attacked the headquarters of Chechnya’s Russian-backed government in Grozny. Russian officials claim that international terrorists helped local Chechens mount the assault, which killed eighty-three people.
■A three-day attack on Ingushetia in June 2004, which killed almost one hundred people and injured another 120.
■Street fighting in October 2005 that killed at least eighty-five people. The fighting was in the south Russian city of Nalchik after Chechen rebels assaulted government buildings, telecommunications facilities, and the airport.
They have ties to and are funded by al Qaeda.
Get going, you’ve got a lot of work to do.
MASH message for Peter Gadiel:
Dear Mr. Gadiel,
You said: “Muslims have to acknowledge that it was their co-religionists who committed this act in their name.” We couldn’t agree with you more. Please know that there are Muslims who are disgusted with Kent officials’ cowardice. Without acknowledging what happened on 9/11, there is no way forward. Germany acknowledged the Holocaust and other atrocities perpetrated by the Nazis in WWII and Germans became a better people for it. We would like to add our voices to your demand that “Murdered by Muslim terrorists” be added on your son’s memorial plaque.
Muslims Against Sharia
I deliberately let your comment sit in the que for a few days while I determined if you were serious or if this was some kind of hoax. I’m still not quite sure, but I’ll give the benefit of the doubt and say you’re a very small minority of muslims in a vast population of Islamofascist extremists.
In light of what just happened at Fort Hood, you’ve got a lot of work to do.
I will tell you exactly what I’ve told other so-called “moderate muslims” who have commented on here:
Come out enmasse. Show the world the so-called “moderate muslims”. I want to see the phantom majority of those who repudiate Islamic violence. I mean by the millions; not a scant letter, post, or rare website. Take to the streets. Show up at the college campuses where Islamofascism has become part of the curriculum. Confront CAIR. Join the GWOT by taking up arms against the al Qaeda and Taliban. And while you’re at it, spread reform across the Middle East, Northern Africa, Indonesia, and Asia. Tell them they can bow to Mecca all fuckin’ day if they wish. Just do it peacefully and quit with the terrorism just because the rest of us don’t follow suit.
But, we know that will never happen. Anyone who’s read any of the Koran (I have) will realize that Islam, by its very doctrine is terrorist. Muslims are simply carrying out what the 7th Century screed dictates.
The war against Islamofascism isn’t over by a long shot; and it won’t be until muslims either worship peacefully or they’re all dead. My bet, is that it will be the latter.